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Hi I have got a bunrer, and can copy both cd's as well as the powertools cd if you want, I should also have the updates cd which makes 4. I should have no problem copying all of them. Just let me know where to send it, and if you want the other 2 cd's Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.