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Hi Guys Thank you once again for all your help. You are an excellent bunch and have inspired me to what is a fun voyage! I am currently using Suse 8.2 and am still struggling to get the network going. I am hoping in the near future to maybe go down the road of the LTSP project but in the meantime would like to get at least two machines talking! And that is where my question comes in. I have read many HowTos and several articles on building a network but as of yet I am not networked! I can't get past the basics. What do I do first? Do I set up my firewall? I was going to use Smoothwall - is this a good idea. Do I set that up first? Then I was going to install Suse 8.2 to a server but it doesn't come with Apache, Mysql or PHP as standard. Should I therefore get Suse Enterprise Server? I have several PII's and I intend to install Slackware to them. When do I connect them in? I did get to the point of having two machines networked or so I thought but they wouldn't talk. The hub I have is a donated one. The lights come on so I assumed it works but how can I tell? I hope you're not too overwhelmed by the number of questions but if you can point me to a book that would answer these questions that would be useful as well. Thanks for your help. Rich -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.